ProductCart Shopping Cart Software Forums : State Codes https://forum.productcart.com/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sun, 12 Apr 2026 16:05:23 +0000 Wed, 21 May 2008 04:25:55 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.04 360 https://forum.productcart.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1640 <![CDATA[ProductCart Shopping Cart Software Forums]]> https://forum.productcart.com/forum_images/pc_logo_50.png https://forum.productcart.com/ <![CDATA[State Codes : Things just got a bit confused...]]> https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5152.html#5152 Author: Hamish
Subject: 1640
Posted: 21-May-2008 at 4:25am

Things just got a bit confused again.
I noticed that the ISO is a list of administrative areas of the UK and NOT postal areas.

For example, Bracknell Forest is never used in addresses and Middlesex was missing, which, although no longer a county is still used in postal addresses :-

<snip>
Middlesex is still used informally as an area name and was retained as a postal county; which is now an optional component of postal addresses
</snip>

The KEY item there is optional component of postal addresses. Investigating further led me to :-

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_counties_of_the_United_Kingdom

<snip>
The Royal Mail has ceased to use the postal counties as a means of sorting mail following the modernisation of their optical character recognitionequipment in 1996. Instead, using postcode defined circulation, theoutward code (first half) of the post code is used to differentiatebetween like-sounding post towns. The former postal county (as they arenow known) for each post town as it was in 1996 is still held on recordby the Royal Mail but where new post towns are created they will not beassigned to a former postal county. Where it is possible, and it isproven there is demand, Royal Mail will consider changes to theiraddress data. Under their code, however, changes to county data willnot be considered
</snip>
 
Yet more digging leads to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_town  "A post town is a required part of all postal addresses in the United Kingdom" and a link to a list of the UK postal towns - http://www.evoxfacilities.co.uk/evoxptn.html
The royal mail, being the  short sighted leviathan that it is, maintain the definitive list of Postal Towns - but you have to buy it.

Where does that leave us?
Back at the beginning I'm afraid - The ISO list does not cross reference with the postal counties, which have always been different & is now officially defunct.
The list of postal towns is both huge & does not have assigned 2-4 character codes.

]]> Wed, 21 May 2008 04:25:55 +0000 https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5152.html#5152 <![CDATA[State Codes : Thanks Matt. Justplaying - Implemented...]]> https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5148.html#5148 Author: Hamish
Subject: 1640
Posted: 20-May-2008 at 5:16pm

Thanks Matt.  Thumbs%20Up
Justplaying - Implemented already - cool!

I'm going to implement a subset of these for a client who just delivers to a limited geographical area. 



]]> Tue, 20 May 2008 17:16:43 +0000 https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5148.html#5148 <![CDATA[State Codes : Thanks for that, all changed and...]]> https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5144.html#5144 Author: Justplaying
Subject: 1640
Posted: 20-May-2008 at 4:57pm

Thanks for that, all changed and looks positively British now LOL


]]> Tue, 20 May 2008 16:57:51 +0000 https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5144.html#5144 <![CDATA[State Codes : The customer sees the fullname....]]> https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5141.html#5141 Author: Matt
Subject: 1640
Posted: 20-May-2008 at 4:37pm

The customer sees the fullname.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2:GB
 
You would not add the prefix "GB-" when you save the regions.
]]> Tue, 20 May 2008 16:37:31 +0000 https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5141.html#5141 <![CDATA[State Codes : Matt, Is there an ISO list of...]]> https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5138.html#5138 Author: Hamish
Subject: 1640
Posted: 20-May-2008 at 4:21pm

Matt,
   Is there an ISO list of codes for UK Counties?  I googled for it but did not find anything.

I suspect even if there is - The codes are not used in UK addresses - so customers would not know which code to select - or does it show the full "state" in the drop down?

Neil - includes/languages.asp is your friend Big%20smile - If you ever want to change text on a page - look in there!

Hamish

Edited by Hamish - 20-May-2008 at 5:17pm]]> Tue, 20 May 2008 16:21:57 +0000 https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5138.html#5138 <![CDATA[State Codes : look for &#034;CustAddModShip_19&#034;...]]> https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5134.html#5134 Author: Matt
Subject: 1640
Posted: 20-May-2008 at 2:34pm

look for "CustAddModShip_19" and "CustAddModShip_6" and "CustAddModShip_5" inside "includes/languages.asp" to change the text.]]> Tue, 20 May 2008 14:34:28 +0000 https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5134.html#5134 <![CDATA[State Codes : Can you enter the ISO Code...]]> https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5133.html#5133 Author: Matt
Subject: 1640
Posted: 20-May-2008 at 2:31pm

Can you enter the ISO Code "NBL" for "Northumberland"?

If so, then you can definitely use the state drop down in the UK.

]]> Tue, 20 May 2008 14:31:21 +0000 https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5133.html#5133 <![CDATA[State Codes : Matt wrote: When you create...]]> https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5132.html#5132 Author: Justplaying
Subject: 1640
Posted: 20-May-2008 at 2:30pm

Originally posted by Matt Matt wrote:

When you create a state via “Manage States” you must enter aFull Name (which is displayed to the customer in a drop menu) and a 2-4 characterISO Code (which is saved to the database).  The ISO state code should be 4digits or less.  Some services, such asPayPal, require a valid ISO code in reference to an address.  In such cases, the full name of a region isnot acceptable (as it could be misspelled).

If using ISO Codes does not fit your needs then you shouldnot add custom states for your country. If there are no custom states ProductCart will display a text field forthe customer to type the name of their region. They can type more than 4 characters in a text field.

If you believe your install is not working as I haveexplained please let us know.



No our install is working fine,  In fact we used Cartweaver for 2 years prior to switching to ProductCart last Summer and our sales have more than trebled

I was just trying to find a way of using the full county names which have been setup in Admin other than customer input

Also for UK use is it possible to edit the State/Province title on the login form
Billing address

First Name:
Last Name:
Company:
Country:
Address:
City:
State/Province:  > County
Postal Code:
Phone:
Fax:

I have tried but cant figure out how to change the title to Counties but cant figure out where the page pulls the headings from Confused

Actually is it possible?

Thanks

Neil
]]> Tue, 20 May 2008 14:30:30 +0000 https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5132.html#5132 <![CDATA[State Codes : Hi Matt, That pretty much confirms...]]> https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5129.html#5129 Author: Hamish
Subject: 1640
Posted: 20-May-2008 at 12:43pm

Hi Matt,
   That pretty much confirms my thoughts then.  I think the "State Codes" is a bust for UK format addresses.

Thanks for the input.  Have there been any thoughts on having country specific sections on the forum?  There are several UK users present that I'm aware of & this type of question would fit better in a country specific section as well as encoraging, say, UK members to subscribe & keep in touch over issues specific to their country - such as:
- Postal & Shipping issues.
- VAT
- Payment Gateways (some).

Hamish


]]> Tue, 20 May 2008 12:43:16 +0000 https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5129.html#5129 <![CDATA[State Codes : When you create a state via...]]> https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5124.html#5124 Author: Matt
Subject: 1640
Posted: 20-May-2008 at 11:44am

When you create a state via “Manage States” you must enter aFull Name (which is displayed to the customer in a drop menu) and a 2-4 characterISO Code (which is saved to the database).  The ISO state code should be 4digits or less.  Some services, such asPayPal, require a valid ISO code in reference to an address.  In such cases, the full name of a region isnot acceptable (as it could be misspelled).

If using ISO Codes does not fit your needs then you shouldnot add custom states for your country. If there are no custom states ProductCart will display a text field forthe customer to type the name of their region. They can type more than 4 characters in a text field.

If you believe your install is not working as I haveexplained please let us know.

]]> Tue, 20 May 2008 11:44:47 +0000 https://forum.productcart.com/state-codes_topic1640_post5124.html#5124